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ThinkPad P14s
The ThinkPad P14s Gen 6 AMD is a 14-inch thin and light mobile workstation. It's powered by an AMD Ryzen AI 7 PRO 350 processor, which offers peak productivity and AI capabilities....

Thinkpad Yoga 260 Laptop
A premium business convertible with everything you need. This thin and lightweight 2-in-1 laptop with four modes adapts elegantly to how you want to use it. Add to that a brilliant...

Slim 7i Aura Edition Copilot+ PC Core Ultra 7 Processor OLED Display
IdeaPad Slim 3
Available in Arctic Grey the IdeaPad Slim 3i is smart and made for heavy on-the-go users from libraries and cafes to airport terminals, with a lightweight and thin profile that's 1...
FHD IdeaPad Slim 3 Chromebook Laptop
Go far, stay charged Live life ethereally with this thin-and-light 3-pound Chromebook, solidly built without moving parts for holding and carrying. WiFi 6 certification and 13.5-ho...
Slim 3 15.6" Core i3-n305 Laptop
Impossibly slim, the Lenovo IdeaPad Slim 3i is amazingly dynamic. Crafted to fit in your fast-paced life, the robust laptop takes your work and play to places never imagined before...
ThinkPad P16s Gen 3
The Lenovo ThinkPad P16s Gen 3, model number 21KS001HUS, is a powerful and portable 16-inch mobile workstation. Certified by independent software vendors (ISVs) for all major appli...

ThinkPad X1 Carbon
With performance, power efficiency, and enhanced security, the Lenovo 14" ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 13 Laptop empowers professionals to stay productive and connected no matter where t...
ThinkPad X270
IdeaPad Slim 3
Available in Arctic Grey the IdeaPad Slim 3i is smart and made for heavy on-the-go users from libraries and cafes to airport terminals, with a lightweight and thin profile that's 1...
700 Multi-Device Wireless Mouse
The Lenovo 700 multi-device wireless mouse is designed for professional users who want to work more effectively and efficiently. It offers ergonomic comfort for all-day use with a...
ThinkPad T14 Laptop
Upgrade your business with the ThinkPad E14 Gen 7, a reliable and efficient laptop powered by an AMD Ryzen 5 230 processor. This 14-inch laptop features 16 GB of DDR5 memory and in...
Why r/BuyItForLife recommends Lenovo
187 mentions from real owners
- #1Dec 31, 2025
Build quality matters more than specs for portable monitors
Does it have to be OLED? Lenovo Thinkvisions are good.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #2Dec 21, 2025
Looking for reliable laptop around $400-600
sorry... one more thing... suggest buy CORPORATE Lenovo line... not consumer IMHO
View on Redditopen_in_new - #3Dec 19, 2025
Looking for reliable laptop around $400-600
That tells you to stay away from hp I should hope, I had a hp I believe around a year or so the hinges failed. Specs were great. After that I’ve never bought anything besides Lenovo ThinkPad series T’s. Now since I’ve been using a iPhone for years now I’m thinking of getting a MacBook Pro.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #4Dec 19, 2025
Looking for reliable laptop around $400-600
Lenovo T or X series refurbished. Or, get one off Ebay. I have both a X260 and a Yoga 260. Yoga can be a hit or miss. Mine doesn't like to be lifted by a corner as something shifted on the mainboard. Or a loose connector. Probably the ram shifting in the socket. I stuck to the 260 because of replaceable ram and m2 drives. Bought used, both of them are 10 years old. Parts are cheap and plentyful. They are meant to be serviced by the user. If you want usb C charging, go x270 and newer. Just be advised newer ones are partially soldering memory and drives on the board.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #5Dec 7, 2025
What brands/products do you AVOID because of their poor longevity?
HP Business laptops are built different however. I've never seen an Elitebook or Probook fail without user fault. Try getting a used 3 year old ones that enterprises sell at a fraction of the price. Same goes for Lenovo ThinkPads.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #6Dec 4, 2025
Something you didn’t expect to be BIFL but outlasted your expectations?
My Lenovo laptop
View on Redditopen_in_new - #7Dec 2, 2025
Need help choosing a laptop
1. https://a.co/d/5t6ji5e 2. https://a.co/d/aBEScJN 3. https://www.bestbuy.com/product/lenovo-yoga-pro-9i-16-2-8k-oled-touchscreen-laptop-intel-core-ultra-9-2025-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5050-32gb-ram-1tb-luna-grey/JJGSH2Q74K/sku/6615768?utm_source=feed&extStoreId=438&ref=212&loc=SaleEvent&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=15356899096&gbraid=0AAAAAD-ORIhNA0Nuj2qfRQ67EfPxTuRbP&gclid=CjwKCAiAlrXJBhBAEiwA-5pgwottYQb1TvPprJZN7eLOSZvRPQITpSLo16Dc75I5gsRRbN8BoodAkxoCFNIQAvD_BwE What do you think about these? The one at best buy I was playing with.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #8Nov 7, 2025
What’s a BIFL thing you bought and now swear by?
on tech: my iphone 13 mini is lasting longer than any phone ive owned, ever. lenovo thinkpad has taken much abuse and is still chugging along. my 3ds has lasted … a decade. a gift i got from my friend is this leather cover a6 loose leaf notebook that i can buy paper refills for. also has taken much abuse. my leather belongings tend to survive much longer (no duh) like random belts, shoes, etc. i wouldnt recommend a backpack from decathlon with elastic straps. they become useless in a year or two. much better to get something without those elastic bands. the construction of the bags arent as robust either but it has survived going everywhere with me so thats good.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #9Nov 1, 2025
What is the equivalent of "Apple removed 3.5mm jack" of your favorite products ?
Build quality. Business class laptops from Lenovo and Dell also have a pretty good build quality, but they're not quite where Apple is. Battery life. What's another high performance laptop with a 24 hour battery life? My ~1 year old Lenovo will last about 4 hours without needing to charge. Form factor. Where can you get a premium small laptop that's not a low-spec POS? The Lenovo X1 is about your only choice, but that maxes out at 32GB of RAM, and you're very limited on CPU choice. Screen. Most laptops don't have nearly as nice of a screen, or as high of a resolution as the MacBooks do. Plus they're bright enough to use outside easily. Sure other laptops have higher resolution available (I have a lenovo P16s for work that has a beautiful screen, but it's a huge laptop and not a form factor I want for my personal laptop). It's not Windows. Windows 11 sucks. And it keeps getting worse. Linux has gotten way better, but it's still not great for the average user. Mac OS isn't perfect, but it generally does just work, and it tends to run much better than Windows does on comparable hardware.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #10Oct 9, 2025
Which laptop should I buy in 2025?
"laptop shopping is such a pain because every brand acts like their budget model is some kind of revolutionary breakthrough when most of them are just adequate at best. for basic stuff like web browsing, watching netflix, and light photo editing, there's no reason to blow your budget unless you have specific needs like gaming or heavy video work. main things that actually matter are decent display quality - 1080p minimum, nothing lower or you'll hate looking at it. enough ram so you can have multiple tabs and programs open without everything grinding to a halt - 8gb bare minimum but 16gb is way better. storage that won't fill up in like a month - 256gb+ ssd so things actually load fast. budget end, lenovo ideapad 3i chromebook or acer gateway chromebook handle browsing, google docs, streaming just fine. cheap, lightweight, battery lasts forever. if you need more local storage or windows compatibility, that nimo 15.6 fhd with 16gb ram plus 1tb ssd is honestly pretty solid value. not gonna win any performance awards but the ram and ssd combo makes it way snappier than most laptops in this price range. stepping up slightly, hp 15.6"" portable gives you windows, bigger screen, better build quality which makes longer work sessions way more comfortable. at this budget level that extra screen real estate and decent keyboard can make a huge difference if you're gonna be using it for hours daily. really comes down to what you're planning to do with it and how much you want to spend. casual use, chromebooks work fine. need windows or more storage, go mid-range. anything demanding and you're looking at way higher prices. you can check [this list](https://freebiesdealsandrewards.com/dp-best_best__laptopsy) for more."
View on Redditopen_in_new - #11Oct 9, 2025
Which laptop should I buy in 2025?
lenovo legion or thinkpad x1 carbon
View on Redditopen_in_new - #12Oct 6, 2025
Recommendations about a laptop
Lenovo Thinkpad X series, P series or T series
View on Redditopen_in_new - #13Oct 5, 2025
Recommendations about a laptop
With how quickly computer specs change, I decided the most BIFL thing I could do was get a Lenovo that was upgradeable for work etc. and a cloud computing subscription for graphics-heavy gaming that my laptop couldn't handle. I came to the conclusion that it would be more sustainable to use a cloud computing service than to frequently replace my own tech whenever next-gen games came out.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #14Oct 5, 2025
Recommendations about a laptop
The current Macs, despite their power, are degrading in performance with updates such as the last Thaoe macOS, the hardware is all soldier and if the hard drive is fucking, you have to change the entire motherboard, a very high expense. Look for the last ThinkPads of Lenovo, Hard and RAM disk can be changed, as well as the battery is relatively easy to change it. If you put 2 operating systems (Windows and Linux), if you use Linux, you will not have programmed obsolescence at least in the software. All the best.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #15Oct 5, 2025
Recommendations about a laptop
A thinkpad x or t series. The rest are crap. But I can vouch for the x series. 10yo laptop, got banged up a few times, working just as well as when it was new.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #16Oct 5, 2025
Recommendations about a laptop
Get Lenovo brand, they last forever. End of story. Dell is the second option.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #17Sep 4, 2025
Brands That Used to Be BIFL — But Aren't Anymore?
For others interested, this appears to be the [T14 Gen 5 and the T16 Gen 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/1b1djp0/ifixit_and_lenovo_team_up_to_make_laptop/). It's nice to see the success of Framework push [HP](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8lsUvil_S8) and now Lenovo Thinkpad back toward repairability, if not upgradeability.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #18Sep 2, 2025
What laptop should I buy in 2025
I'll make this simpler for you. I'd go windows unless you're 100% ready to buy into the apple ecosystem. I have other qualms with apple, but they don't play nice with others and won't integrate as well unless it's apple products. You also will pay more for the same internal specs. Try to find sales or deals. I'd get a 512gb- 1tb hard drive, 16gb ram and a newer Ryzen 5 or 7 CPU. If not Ryzen gets at least an i5 maybe an i7 depending on what's available. Should be able to get a very capable laptop for 500-700 dollars and I would look for a 13-15 inch screen for classes. The newer Ryzen chips are great for all around use and will easily run lighter games. Laptops like these will give you a long life of you treat them well. People will be for or against different manufacturers but it's not always a guarantee regardless. It's somewhat easy to find dell and Lenovo enterprise machines refurbished for even a little less if you want to save more, but just look up the specs of whatever you want to get before buying to make sure it aligns with your expectations. Good luck!
View on Redditopen_in_new - #19Sep 2, 2025
What laptop should I buy in 2025
If you wanna run games then you gotta go with a Windows laptop. Then your most bifl choice is one of the Lenovo Thinkpads, ones that are most recommended. I suggest you get one of the newer "AMD AI chip" models since they have some incredible iGPU, which will allow you to run most basic or simple games, but stay usable for other stuff (instead of gaming ones that'll be heavy, hot, loud and battery draining)
View on Redditopen_in_new - #20Sep 2, 2025
What laptop should I buy in 2025
Laptops are not BIFL. They will usually last for 3-7 years and even if they work after that they will be outdated. Macs with base M processors are a great choice (price/performance/reliability ratio). If you need windows then Lenovo Thinkpad or other business oriented laptops from Dell. Also checkout [this](https://youtu.be/NzRehSFWuKo?si=o9-6FLjyjHFW8qAE) video
View on Redditopen_in_new - #21Sep 2, 2025
What laptop should I buy in 2025
The Lenovo Slim 7i or 7x might suit you. But they are like Macs and cannot be upgraded.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #22Sep 2, 2025
What laptop should I buy in 2025
That's really the best and worst thing about framework. I could spend a YEAR thinking about MY configuration. I can't even fathom deciding someone else's. That's why in my original comment, I said Mac. It's a general purpose laptop that has touchscreen support. Other than that, it's usually brand loyalty. I wouldn't get a gaming laptop imo if Minecraft and Minecraft like games are your biggest computation (I love stardew valley and I can play it on virtually anything). Gaming Laptops are extremely power hungry. Most run a few hours, maybe 4 MAX on battery. I daily a Lenovo Z13. I love it, I basically sleep with it. If you can find a refurb model, you'd save 400ish bucks, I'd recommend it. It's on the smaller slide. Like most kids board books would be larger than it. It's great on battery life, and it's a good keyboard feel. It's touchscreen too, but I don't really use it that often. I think I got mine (the 1st Gen) for about 700 bucks, nearly brand new a year ago. Laptops isn't really a BIFL thing, because technology ages very quickly. Hardware becomes too capable and more efficient, and the software stays near tandem to support it. This makes a laptop worth 1k bucks 2 years ago, easily 500 dollars now.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #23Sep 2, 2025
What laptop should I buy in 2025
No worries. I love Lenovo. I use the Lenovo Z13 (1st Gen) as my Daily. I don't like the direction Lenovo is going. But oh well. I'll probably buy a framework if I ever warrant the money. I like bulkier laptops, and I think the general consumer doesn't agree (I say that as I daily a 13 inch laptop lol). I always purchase laptops refurbished or for parts, and so I can most of my stuff for around 20% of their original price. Laptops can be fun, but there are succinct hardware limits. Unlike in a desktop, you can't just replace the motherboard to support X chip. If the laptop never had a release that had Y in it, you're SOL.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #24Sep 2, 2025
What laptop should I buy in 2025
The business class laptops, the ones that start with T. The carbon is pretty ubiquitous so parts should be cheap. Most of the time, I don't have issue with Lenovo or Dell Latitudes. Everything else is pretty much a nightmare. Framework is honestly the best answer here. It's very DIY and repair friendly. Like, extremely. A desktop computer is extremely repairable and modular, and only one laptop company follows it. Framework.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #25Sep 2, 2025
What laptop should I buy in 2025
Reparability and upgreadability should be top priority if you're in this subreddit, so there are only 2 logical suggestions: Framework, the 13 should be the right one for you. The most BIFL laptop so far by far. Lenovo ThinkPad, the thicker, repairable models. The other option would be one of the smaller manufacturers, Tuxedo, Slimbook, StarLabs, etc. Caviat that there is no BIFL laptop. but a repairable and upgradeable one is as close as it gets. And nobody who supports or promotes any of the manufacturers actively opposing right to repair has anything to do here. That's just one of the most evil things to do as a manufacturer.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #26Sep 1, 2025
Which laptop should I buy in 2025?
For your use case get atleast 1tb of storage also take atleast 16gb of ram. Take a look at laptops in the 500-700$ price range. I recommend lenovo & Acer both offer reliable laptops that can last for a few years.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #27Aug 12, 2025
Is buying a refurbished laptop actually better for the environment and wallet or am I risking the quality?
Honestly with many manufacturers quality will probably be better with some older refurbs. New things today are GRABAGE you can barely upgrade. I buy refurbished Lenovos on eBay and recommend them to anyone looking for a new laptop. Not sure what your budget is but if you're looking for windows devices check out Lenovo Thinkpad T series.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #28Aug 12, 2025
Is buying a refurbished laptop actually better for the environment and wallet or am I risking the quality?
I just bought a brand new 15-in touch screen laptop from Lenovo for $310. I love it.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #29Aug 12, 2025
Is buying a refurbished laptop actually better for the environment and wallet or am I risking the quality?
We bought a gently used (1-2 years old) Lenovo for our kids several years ago and it is still being used. I think the key is to get something that is not super old, doesn't have signs of heavy wear, and is actually a good value. The used one we bought was about half of what new computers with similar specs were so it seemed like a good risk/reward situation.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #30Aug 11, 2025
Dad Needs a New Laptop
I prefer Mac for my personal and work machines, but no modern Mac laptop is BIFL. While they tend to last a long time, they are difficult to impossible to repair if something does go wrong. Business laptops aim for tough and repairable. Lenovo, HP, and Dell are often mentioned. Framework takes repairability to another level though, as you can actually upgrade the laptops with new parts over time. They’re a fairly new company though, but they have supposedly lived up to the promise for the most part.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #31Aug 11, 2025
Is buying a refurbished laptop actually better for the environment and wallet or am I risking the quality?
Electronics with a warranty and good return policy are the best refurb / used things to buy. I’ve bought refurb monitors, laptops, and pc parts all with no problems. Lenovo, HP, and Dell often have some pretty good prices on refurbished equipment. I’d go straight from manufacturer. Though I did get a used projector from Amazon Warehouse with no problems
View on Redditopen_in_new - #32Aug 11, 2025
Dad Needs a New Laptop
I third this. Have a Lenovo and it gets the job done. I got mine through one of the larger retailers, I think Best Buy.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #33Aug 11, 2025
Dad Needs a New Laptop
That's a workload that won't need anything special for specs. I'd suggest just looking out for anything with about 16GB of RAM and 512GB of storage. For having a few things open at once and space to save the stuff he'll need to, respectively. Other than that, just go down to a local brick and mortar computer store and check out how you find they're built. Sticking with brands you've heard of before is a safe bet (Lenovo, Asus, Acer, Dell,...), except for HP and Toshiba. If he needs a laptop because he wants to store it away and not carry it around, build quality doesn't actually have to be great, either. He could actually run everything off of a mid range smartphone, connected to a display and keyboard, if he wanted to.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #34Aug 11, 2025
Dad Needs a New Laptop
it sound like a used T or X series Thinkpad it all he really needs - honestly just buy what he already uses, he doesn't need all the bells a whistles of something new nor all the BS they put on them... plus if he's about to retire he's probably old enough to have no desire to learn any of it anyway. My Mom needed a new computer about a year ago so I got started building her a really good solid Thinkpad only to realize half way through that it was going to be far too much for her & ultimately just ended up buying her an updated version of the Dell she was already using and used to
View on Redditopen_in_new - #35Aug 11, 2025
Dad Needs a New Laptop
Lenovo 2-in-1 series is extremely good value. You can a all metal build computer with outstanding hardware for around $600.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #36Aug 11, 2025
Dad Needs a New Laptop
lenovo, had the same one since 2020 and its amazing
View on Redditopen_in_new - #37Aug 11, 2025
Dad Needs a New Laptop
What preferred operating system, mac or windows. I got a Lenovo with Ryzen 5, 16gb ram, 512gb storage, $500. look at best buy or costco for something similar.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #38Aug 7, 2025
Which laptop should I buy in 2025?
Would love some help from this group - I'm a graduate student MBA and just started an Financial Planning firm. I will be heavily using excel, writing on word, building presentations, and running Financial planning software as well as tax software. I need a Microsoft office suite. Here are the options I'm considering, which one would be a better deal and long-term investment out of these two options. 1.Lenovo Think E16 Gen 1 RAM:40GB Storage: 1TB AMD Ryzen 7 7730 U Price: $730 Or Macbook Air - M4 2025, 8 Core CPU Price: $799 Thoughts? Help....
View on Redditopen_in_new - #39Aug 2, 2025
Which laptop should i buy?
Quality wise I believe the lenovos are better, or at least used to, but in general gaming laptops tend to skimp a lot quality wise, so don't expect it to last that long
View on Redditopen_in_new - #40Aug 2, 2025
Please help me but a laptop
I'd say go for a well specd lenovo thinkpad from ebay, especially the t14 gen 1 or gen2 based on your budget, they are the same but the second one is better
View on Redditopen_in_new - #41Jul 10, 2025
Looking for a solid laptop for a variety of things for late high school/early college
Lenovo Thinkpad. I bought one 10 years ago and still use it. Great keyboard for a laptop, some have replaceable batteries and easily upgradable RAM, lots of different configurations, lots of ports.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #42Jul 5, 2025
Which laptop should I buy in 2025?
your comment seems to have made it to the top of google when I search for "laptop recommendations 2025", so congratulations! I'm wondering if you have any opinions on the gen 5 versions of the P14s, specifically the AMD versions. I'm looking at [this](https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/lenovo-thinkpad-p14s-gen-5-14-inch-amd-mobile-workstation/21me000ruk#tech_specs) ryzen 7 8840 32GB versionwhich seems surprisingly cheap at £900 (for reference, that's the same price as a macbook air m4 with absolute base-specs in the UK). I work in education and can therefore get windows 11 education edition for free. I've never used apple OS before, but I don't think anything I use specifically needs windows. My current laptop is an HP envy from 2020 and has a ryzen 7 4700U and 16GB ram. It is still more than capable of doing everything I use it for (matlab, spreadsheets, word+powerpoint, some light gaming, small amounts of autocad), but the hinge popped out and shattered my screen. I have been quoted \~£450 for repair. I could get something lower specced, but it seems like just matching the specs in my recently smashed laptop would cost about £600, so I figured \~£900 for something more modern might be good value for futureproofing. I don't really want to be going much higher than that. Anyway, I found your comment really helpful so thanks for that!
View on Redditopen_in_new - #43Jul 3, 2025
Which laptop should I buy in 2025?
Lenovo
View on Redditopen_in_new - #44Jul 3, 2025
Which laptop should I buy in 2025?
Honestly, there’s no single “best” laptop for everyone, depends on what you want to do. I’ve tried a bunch of these and here’s my take: If you just want the best all-around laptop and don’t mind the price, the MacBook Air 2025 (M4) is hard to beat. Battery lasts forever and it’s super fast for pretty much anything except gaming. If you’re already using iPhone or iPad, it just works better. If you game a lot, get the ASUS ROG Strix G16. It’s fast, runs cool, and the screen is really nice for games. Not the lightest thing but worth it if you care about performance. HP 17 Laptop is honestly good if you need something cheap but still powerful. Huge RAM and storage so it won’t slow down with tons of tabs open or big files. Screen isn’t full HD though, so keep that in mind. Dell Vostro 15.6" is solid for students—good build, decent price, can handle schoolwork easily. Lenovo V15 is a safe choice if you’re mostly doing office stuff, emails, docs etc. So yeah, pick based on what you actually need it for. No point spending extra on stuff you won’t use tbh.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #45Jun 12, 2025
Non-"Gaming" Laptop Suggestion thats Powerful?
1: Where are you located 2: What are you planning on doing? "Surfing the internet" is really low demand usage. So knowing what else you might do has an impact. I got both of my kids (14 & 15) each one of these for School this year ***Lenovo Slim 7i Copilot+ PC 14-in Touchscreen OLED Laptop, Intel Core Ultra 7 256V - 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD*** For the price point at the time it was a perfect back to school laptop to handle all the work tasks and do silly games but nothing intense on. I got it from Costco Canada.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #46Jun 12, 2025
Non-"Gaming" Laptop Suggestion thats Powerful?
second hand Lenovo Thinkpad. The older it is, the more upgradable, you gotta find a balance for what you need.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #47Jun 2, 2025
Which laptop should I buy in 2025?
I'd buy a legion 7k or a ASUS ROG Strix Scar
View on Redditopen_in_new - #48Jun 1, 2025
Which laptop should I buy in 2025?
Lenovo or MacBook
View on Redditopen_in_new - #49May 11, 2025
Best laptop currently?
If you’re in the market for windows laptops imo Lenovo enterprise models have a good life span on them. We manage a fleet (Lenovo t14) and expect 6 years economic life out of them, but have some that have easily got to 10 years. Keyboards and drives are replaceable although I think the new models do not have replaceable ram.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #50May 8, 2025
Laptop for school suggestions
Got you!
View on Redditopen_in_new - #51May 5, 2025
What laptop should I get as a student?
If you already have apple products go for macbook, you won't be disappointed. If you want to try out windows laptops try business series: Lenovo Thinkpad, Dell Latitude, HP Probook (just as an example, do not buy them). They have extended warranty and are overall better built and designed.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #52May 5, 2025
What laptop should I get as a student?
lenovo x1 carbon. I've had mine for +10 yrs and still runs like a charm. not as fast as it used to be, but i can wait 5 secs.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #53Apr 11, 2025
Laptop question - framework 13, Lenovo Thinkpad or something else?
My thinkpad is still going strong at 5 years. Battery for unplugged-use did conk out about eight months ago but it was an easy replacement--actually got an even better one. iFixit also has a lot about how to repair/upkeep/upgrade it.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #54Apr 11, 2025
Laptop question - framework 13, Lenovo Thinkpad or something else?
Go with Lenovo Thinkpad
View on Redditopen_in_new - #55Apr 9, 2025
What is your current BIFL item you recommend to everyone?
Lenovo Thinkpad T480 or earlier
View on Redditopen_in_new - #56Apr 7, 2025
[Request] Laptop brands built to last....longer?
I have used HP Elitebook models for the last 10 years with zero failures. I work for a tech company so its not "my" laptop but I have very few complaints. I currently use an 840 G7 - 3 years old with 10 hours of daily abuse and carrying it everywhere. I'm sure Dell and Lenovo have equivalent ranges.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #57Apr 6, 2025
Help Me Find the Ultimate Durable Laptop Under 700 USD for Streaming, Classes, and Daily Use!
T480 dies Get t490 or get a t14 with as much ram as you can get since most aren't upgradable like the t480 and of course if Amd is available get it over Intel
View on Redditopen_in_new - #58Apr 6, 2025
Help Me Find the Ultimate Durable Laptop Under 700 USD for Streaming, Classes, and Daily Use!
Under 7K and with those requirements? The T480 is probably your best bet. You can find one on eBay for less than that that will last you at least 5 years. Side note: My T480 has more RAM than my gaming PC at this point. It could very likely go another 10 years
View on Redditopen_in_new - #59Apr 2, 2025
Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i. Laptop
No laptop is bifl. Most robust laptop is the Lenovo T series in my opinion.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #60Apr 1, 2025
Urgent Need for New Laptop
I don't know where you live and what's available to you, but maybe a Dell Latitude? Latitude is the "business" line and therefore higher quality, and if you buy it second hand, it's affordable. Also, Lenovo Thinkpads have a reputation of lasting long and being easy to repair.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #61Apr 1, 2025
Urgent Need for New Laptop
Lenovo Thinkpad. Refurbished with an SSD. I bought three at the start of COVID for about £150 each. They're all still working brilliantly. I wouldn't buy anything else (other than a Mac) now.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #62Apr 1, 2025
Urgent Need for New Laptop
A two year old Dell shouldn’t be going out on you. We have 5-6 year old Dells (and older) that are still running fine. Before you decide to spend hundreds of dollars on a new computer, check with your university to see if they have repair service on campus. If yes, get them to look at it for you and price repairs, if no then find a computer service center near you (Best Buy, U Break I fix)and get an estimate for cost of repairs…you may have to pay a “bench” fee for them to diagnose but that usually goes toward repair if they repair it. Many universities have loaners for while a computer is in the shop, so check on that too! Most universities have an “in” with Apple, Dell and Lenovo to get discounted pricing for students. Check on these prices before you go anywhere else. We have also purchased refurbished Dell computers from Dellrefurbished and refurbished Macs from Mac or All Trades. One of my kids just finished grad school with a 2019 MacBook Air we got for about $500 in Dec 2023 after their 2014 refurbished gave up…
View on Redditopen_in_new - #63Mar 11, 2025
Macbook: Should I buy the M4 model?
The Lenovo Thinkpad also rock. I just need a Mac for work. If I needed Windows, I'd go with a Thinkpad
View on Redditopen_in_new - #64Mar 10, 2025
Identity crisis help - Intel Core 7 150U, Intel Core 5 120U, Ryzen 7 8845HS
If you want some longevity in the computer, consider upping the RAM to 32 GBs and the SSD to 1 TB. You’ll figure out as more and more applications become browser based that you’ll quickly run out of RAM. And 512 GBs goes fast depending on your job, how much you write, or what classes you take. Especially so if you do actually install games. Otherwise, either the AMD or Core 7 will be good choices.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #65Feb 10, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I know nothing about technology, but my partner is an IT manager and he set me up with a Lenovo. He originally recommended a Thinkpad, but I ended up with the Yoga just due to a promotional price. One feature I love about Lenovo is the battery saver options, I've got mine set so that it uses power directly from the outlet and bypasses my battery, and cap my battery charge at 80%. Again, I know nothing, my partner set me up this way, but it makes me feel better about my battery lasting forever.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #66Feb 10, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I know nothing about technology, but my partner is an IT manager and he set me up with a Lenovo. He originally recommended a Thinkpad, but I ended up with the Yoga just due to a promotional price. One feature I love about Lenovo is the battery saver options, I've got mine set so that it uses power directly from the outlet and bypasses my battery, and cap my battery charge at 80%. Again, I know nothing, my partner set me up this way, but it makes me feel better about my battery lasting forever.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #67Feb 10, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo if you don't want to be stuck in Apple's environment.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #68Feb 10, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
This is the correct answer. I bought a used Thinkpad 7 years ago and the only upgrade the seller did was stick a 500gb SSD in it. That thing just won’t die.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #69Feb 10, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo for PCs. I have a Lenovo from 2010 that still powers up and can run about 2 hours on the original battery. I don't understand. I have another Lenovo laptop from 2016 that still works fine as well. With cloud based processing now, gaming on a bare bones device is already a thing.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #70Feb 10, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Dude my HP was broken on day 2. I was too careless to report it but their quality is so bad. My next laptop will definitely be a Lenovo or Dell or something. Never HP again. And I paid so much for it too, stupid 20 year old me.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #71Feb 10, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
When I was young, my dad always bought HP laptops for some reason and I would get his old laptop. It would often start falling apart after a couple of years. So I've decided never to buy HP. My Lenovo gaming laptop that I got about 10 years ago is still working and in one piece.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #72Feb 10, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo or Mac. I feel like you could do worse with ASUS, also.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #73Feb 10, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Almost the entire architectural design and construction related engineering industry uses Lenovo Thinkpads. We run some of the most graphic intensive software constantly on these machines year round, and they deliver. These things are workhorses. They are designed to do what they do at a certain spec and do it well. Highly recommend.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #74Feb 10, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo Thinkpad or Lenovo Legion
View on Redditopen_in_new - #75Feb 10, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
1. Apple MacBook Pro 2. Lenovo ThinkPad 3. Asus Vivobook. Ranked in order from best (imo) to worst, though that doesn’t mean (in any sense) that the Vivobook is bad. They’re all awesome. Buy any one of them and you’ll be golden.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #76Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
An average sized Thinkpad from Lenovo is good, not too thin, not too bulky as they get complicated to take apart to repair. Nothing too fancy either like Lenovo Yogas I used to be a field technician for a small IT company repairing computers. They are by far the easiest to repair, software and hardware wise. Dell would be a close second, their self diagnostics they embedded into their computers are pretty accurate and have standard practices into their parts. Both have great support websites that you can navigate to solve most of small issues you may have to being able to serialize a new mobo. Avoid anything HP. Their RMA services tend to be difficult and all devices are hard-coded into their build, meaning even though this hardware device looks like it fits into your computer and should work, the serialization would deny it from working. Serialization is also difficult when working with a new mobo because if you screw it up you have to get another new mobo. I personally hate this anti-consumer practice. As far as your light gaming goes, that would pretty much be CPU dependant if you're going for a laptop without a dedicated GPU and would largely affect your budget. This you will have to research on.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #77Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo - I have a higher end version that I purchased in 2016 and it's still going strong in 2025 with games, programs, and basically everything
View on Redditopen_in_new - #78Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I know you said no to MacBook but my MacBook is 8 years old and I’ve never had one issue. My husband’s MacBook is 12 years old and has only had to have the hard drive replaced. We also have the Lenovo Thinkpad that turns into a tablet for work and they are great too. Those are about 5 years old and have had zero issues.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #79Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
A ThinkPad or Chromebook. The ones we have at work are running 24/7 and are still great after 2 years
View on Redditopen_in_new - #80Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo ThinkPad. It's worth it.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #81Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I got a thinkpad for my new job and it’s phenomenal. Puts my HP to shame.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #82Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I have one ASUS laptop from 2013 that refuses to die. Another Lenovo Ideapad from late 2016 that is still in solid working condition. So, ASUS and Lenovo should be some good options. Stay away from HP and Gateway.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #83Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I have a Lenovo ThinkPad I bought in 2011 that's still in heavy use.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #84Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
For everyone here (not OP since he already said apple isn't his thing...) I know this is going to get buried but as someone who's worked IT for just about 2 decades, please don't buy apple unless you can fix a computer yourself. They have some of the most UNETHICAL practices when it comes to laptop repair. They're apple geniuses will run rudimentary checks on your computer when you have a problem and when they can't fix it, they'll push for buying a new computer. They're integrated boards make it so that a fix to a small part means paying 4x to 10x the price since they have to replace EVERYTHING. It frustrating that a corporation that makes so much money does everything it can to squeeze out as much profit as possible by screwing it's uninformed customer base over. Like a lot of people have mentioned, if you want a work horse, get a Lenovo.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #85Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Yeah I switched to MacOS about a decade ago and I still miss my Lenovo Thinkpad that I used in high school!
View on Redditopen_in_new - #86Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I suck at reading. Sorry op. Probably would get a Lenovo. My windows work laptops all suck. Terrible battery life
View on Redditopen_in_new - #87Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Apple or Lenovo.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #88Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
In 2020 I did a ton of research and landed on a Lenovo Thnnkpad. Flawless and I use it everyday, carry it around in a bag and open it up countless times. Never had an issue.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #89Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I’ve been an IT admin for a few decades, and have bought at this point probably thousands of computers, some of them for personal use and a huge number of them for business. My personal thought on it is that Apple Max are down the most reliable hardware I’ve ever seen. But given that you are looking for commodity PC hardware, my recommendation is Lenovo. And nothing you can buy at a store. Only there business focused products. They tend to be more expensive, not as fast or not as feature Rich as their consumer based laptops. But tend to be much more reliable because they are designed to be used day in and day out for 40 hours a week every week for years. That being said I have had some incredibly good luck as well with Dell models. Right now I have a dell latitude that’s about nine years old that keeps on cranking away with no problems. And I’ve had many many latitudes that similarly lasted forever. The real secret of my opinion is to only purchase business grade commercial laptops, never consumer.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #90Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Thinkpad.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #91Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Low end gaming lap tops by Lenovo or Asus have worked for me. Had an Asus Republic of Gamers for 9 years. Replaced with a bottom end GPU Lenovo Legion 3 years ago. Gaming laptops tend to have memory and SSD expandability that contribute to those not being reasons to abandon an otherwise ok CPU.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #92Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I like lenovo personally. Thinkpad x1 carbon series.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #93Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Dell has burned me on the consumer side. My XPS was nothing but problems. Maybe the business class ones are better. I am back to Lenovo. Outside of a few issues I'm pretty happy with it.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #94Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
If I had to get a laptop, it would be an Apple product. Our old MacBook Pro was in use for 15 years. I used a Lenovo laptop for work and that thing was a beast too.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #95Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I have two older Lenovo laptops that are still in use. One is from 2012. I use it when I need a DVD drive. They're stuff still has good build quality and good after-sale service.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #96Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I like Lenovo. I also like Acer. I can definitely recommend my Samsung Galaxy Book. It's the best laptop I've ever had.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #97Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Personally I like Dell laptops, I’ve had a few Inspirons. I tend to upgrade laptops every 5-7 years and my Dells always still work okay at the end. Lenovos are also decent, my work laptops are all Lenovos and they last a decent time and they don’t feel cheap. To last a really long time you don’t want to cheap out too much, you’ll want to go for the best gpu/cpu laptop you can afford with a ssd drive (maybe even an extra m.2 slot so you can get extra storage). Remember that expensive doesn’t equal good, there are lots of laptops with shitty gpu/cpu set ups that are $800+ but will be the same quality as a cheap $200 chromebook. Find a few laptops you like and look up the benchmarks of their components, you’ll want the best ones bc in 5-7 years they’ll probably be mid range or upper low range. So more than usable in the future, vs getting a midrange set up now it’ll be pretty out of date in a few years. If performance isn’t a big deal I’d still go higher end now just so it can stay usable for a long time. Tech changes fast so can’t guarantee it, but a high end set up should be able to last 10 years pretty easily if you’re aren’t gaming or video editing
View on Redditopen_in_new - #98Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Framework or Lenovo ThinkPad (only T, E and X series though).
View on Redditopen_in_new - #99Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
As much as I hate Apple, when it comes to laptops, the M macs are amazing in terms of longevity/performance/battery life. If you have to stick to windows, I'd go with the ThinkPad.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #100Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I work in IT for an MSP. The think pads we get in seem to be the only devices that last. HP and Dell devices start going to shit after only a couple years.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #101Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Thinkpads last forever
View on Redditopen_in_new - #102Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Oh no when I worked in IT all those years ago MacBooks and thinkpads where the only thing that lasted.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #103Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
It’s not even a debate : Lenovo Thinkpads.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #104Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo T-series Solid durable design
View on Redditopen_in_new - #105Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
The only “brand” for long term use these days is Apple. If you don’t want macOS then you need to start looking at models. Every brand will come out with its own problem models each cycle. Generally you want to look for the business class models, dell latitude(whatever it’s called now), thinkpad t or x series, hp elitebook/probook. Generally these models will have longer product cycles and service manuals. I would not buy a laptop that doesn’t have a service manual. There is framework which has some amazing repairability and good product design but is a newer product with some teething issues, higher pricing and more complex support processes. Framework does offer the option to keep your chassis and upgrade your motherboard.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #106Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
No Brainer. Thinkpad X1 NASA exclusively uses Thinkpads
View on Redditopen_in_new - #107Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Thinkpads
View on Redditopen_in_new - #108Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Idk laptops that well but my Lenovo laptop from 2017 is still surviving quite well. My only issue is that I can't find someone who knows tech who would upgrade my ram for me smfh
View on Redditopen_in_new - #109Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Not asus or rog. Dell is alright But i have heard great things about Lenovo I think lenovo carbon think something edition is for life
View on Redditopen_in_new - #110Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Honestly Apple. A 2012 Macbook Pro lasted me until 2020 and I only stopped using it when I accidentally spilled water on it. Unless there’s a specific app or game that you plan on using that is only compatible on a laptop pc, Apple is by far your best option. Lenovos would be your second best option but the gap between a macbook and a lenovo is pretty significant when you compare long term use.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #111Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Dell or Lenovo. Dell has amazing service too. My first encounter with Lenovo's service was quite bad, but it wasn't a warranty repair so that could be the cause.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #112Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
you can look into the thinkpad p1 gen 6 (gen7 seems to have some issues). there are other great think pads but you need to do you homework on them some just have the thinkpad name but aren't made as nice. also MacBooks are extremely well made, i use a 10 year old one almost daily and i feel that modern windows laptops are barely catching up to my old MacBook.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #113Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
LENOVO has been reliable. SSD, Good Video Card and some solid RAM, gtg.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #114Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I suggest lenovo
View on Redditopen_in_new - #115Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Thinkpad all the way!!! Lenovo is good in general but when it comes to user repairability, they are far and above the only one to consider in my eyes. Other lines like IdeaPad really feel like they’re built to a different standard, meant to be tossed in the bin. But Thinkpad… you could be Will Smith in “I Am Legend” and that thing STILL wouldn’t fail you. My Thinkpad X1 Extreme has sortve become my own Ship of Theseus in a sense. I’ve taken the thing fully apart in order to fix something more times than I can count, and frankly it is still such a beast after 6 years time.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #116Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo
View on Redditopen_in_new - #117Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I keep telling my 4 year old think pad I do NOT want an upgrade, lol.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #118Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I have 2006 ThinkPad that still runs! Granted I can't really install anything new on it, but it runs games like Fate just fine
View on Redditopen_in_new - #119Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Don't just get any Lenovo, instead get Thinkpad. If price is concerned, consider refurbished or even recycled ie get from companies who recycle tech for other organizations like greencitizens based out in Bay area.. tech companies forces refresh every 2-4 years but those ThinkPads are still good for another 5-10 years
View on Redditopen_in_new - #120Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo makes great laptops
View on Redditopen_in_new - #121Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo has been my go to for 12 years. Before that it was sony. The Microsoft surface line lasts, it just isn't repairable other than HD swap.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #122Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
A non-entry level Lenovo
View on Redditopen_in_new - #123Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo in my experience
View on Redditopen_in_new - #124Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
If you go lenovo, make sure it's ThinkPad specifically. Asus are generally good. Gigabyte also. I don't think I would really consider any other brands tbh.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #125Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo is always my go to suggestion because they’re sturdy as fuck, but MSI has some crazy cooling solutions on their bigger machines. Like 5-6 heat pipes, radical shit.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #126Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Refurbished lenovo thinkpad from ebay is the way to go, got mine for $80 and maintenance is always easy and cheap on them.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #127Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo, Asus, that's it
View on Redditopen_in_new - #128Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
thinkpad
View on Redditopen_in_new - #129Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I’ve bought my family and myself a few Thinkpads since 2015 and I feel like they’re the best Windows laptops around BUT are NOT anywhere close to BIFL The 2015-2020 models had a rubber (I guess) rim around the screen that degraded within 5 years. It would break off, leaving black pieces everywhere. I tried to find instructions on how to replace just the rim on ifixit and I had to replace the screen entirely. Every other rubber part degraded as well, but I just took those out. Furthermore, not all models are upgradable either, you’ll really wanna find out what options are available. That said, still the best windows laptops around. My ThinkPad X1 Extreme that I do not bring out has upgraded storage and ram, keeping it up with current day specs.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #130Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
My Lenovo thinkpad from 2013 still works!!
View on Redditopen_in_new - #131Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Yep. I've been using the same one since 2012. Carbon X1.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #132Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Asus. Dell. Lenovo
View on Redditopen_in_new - #133Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
My ThinkPad is turning 6 years old this year and it is still a champ!
View on Redditopen_in_new - #134Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Mac. In a distant second place, lenovo or dell.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #135Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
MacBook or Lenovo, Dell = Never again
View on Redditopen_in_new - #136Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo. Best value for money I’ve experienced in laptops, by far. This isn’t just one experience, either; my direct sample size is three Lenovos and I think six others (ASUS, HP, MSI, Apple…).
View on Redditopen_in_new - #137Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I have two Lenovo thinkpads, one for personal one for work and they both are great!
View on Redditopen_in_new - #138Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Exactly. Or a Lenovo Legion for a more gaming focused laptop.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #139Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I’m on year 7 for mine
View on Redditopen_in_new - #140Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
There is no other answer than Apple and Lenovo. Full stop. Even in the highest end gaming laptops - like Asus or Alienware - they are all garbage. HP couldn’t pay me to use or recommend their hardware. Unfortunately even light gaming is incompatible with reasonable battery life - even with GPU switching or ARM cpus. I’d highly highly highly recommend choosing which experience you want to maximize - what do you spend the most time doing scaled by enjoyment (ie 1hr gaming but highlight of ur weeknight vs working for yourself 8 hours where that extra power each day helps). I’ve had a 15” air with an old gaming laptop that I used only as a desktop computer. That was a great experience. Oh - last thing - used MacBooks stay relevant far longer than used gaming hardware. A 2year old Mac may be 80% as good as a current day Mac but a used gaming laptop will be 70/60% of a 2year windows laptop. Credentials are I’ve worked for ~10 years, and I’m those times used intimately all three OS for every possible purpose. Used to build and repair computers as a side hustle in college. EE/CS field, roboticsz
View on Redditopen_in_new - #141Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I'm using the Lenovo Thinkpad X260, bought it for like $150. It's been one year, holding up really well, considering it's a 2nd hand laptop. It has an SSD though. So yeah... Thinkpad.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #142Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I've had good luck with Lenovo gaming laptops. They are designed for more severe usage than normal.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #143Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Old thinkpad or an M series MacBook Air/pro.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #144Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
My MacBook Air is almost 10 years old. I’ve always been a PC person but since my iPad and iPhone are my daily users, I thought a Mac would be nice for the compatibility, plus a good friend told me they rarely, if at all, get viruses. I don’t use a laptop that often so I don’t need anything fancy, mostly use it for my taxes every year. I went to do that again and got a message that my iOS wouldn’t support the software, but my Mac can’t be upgraded any more. A fond farewell, Mac. I’ve used Dell laptops at work and they keep getting worse every year, like a bad fan making crazy noises is a “known issue”. I’ve had to have mine replaced every 2 to 3 years. So when it came time to get a new laptop, I went with Lenovo. Having a PC laptop is just more intuitive for me and I’m hopeful it will last more than a few years. It’s reassuring to see it recommended here.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #145Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I ran a computer repair shop for 6 years. The number of apple laptops we got in for repairs was perfectly in line with their market share. Apple makes 9 billion a year off repairs and apple care. If they didn't need repairs that's an awful lot of money people are throwing away. I work field service now and my $500 Lenovo has been in the field with me every day for 6 years. It gets rained on a few times a year and it looks beat to hell, but haven't had to repair anything on it. If something were to break I would be able to fix it for $50-200 because Lenovo doesn't serialize parts. No computer is BIFL and short of bottom of the barrel netbooks and $299 best buy specials, unless they are physically damaged most will outlive their usefulness due to ever increasing computer power. Nothing Apple makes meets the criteria of the post, period.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #146Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Thinkpads or Dells.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #147Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
My first Lenovo Thinkpad lasted over 10 years. I'm now on my second. When I need to replace it I'll get another Lenovo Thinkpad.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #148Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
As someone who used to work tech support, look for these brands for good long-term usage: Lenovo Asus (I've had mine since 2015, runs like a clock) MSI The brands to absolutely avoid: **HP**, Dell
View on Redditopen_in_new - #149Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
This. I've had my current Thinkpad for nearly 4 years and it's brilliant. Durable, fast and versatile.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #150Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I would say a Lenovo with SSD will do the trick.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #151Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Yep. My whole family uses thinkpads!
View on Redditopen_in_new - #152Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Modern Apple laptops are unrepairable and unupgradeable. TLDR: I'd say buy a Lenovo Thinkpad or Legion(for more gaming power) with replaceable RAM and SSD. The [new Dell laptops](https://youtu.be/fiG2-1GiAso) also look good, though it's hard to predict reliability for a new redesign. Or if you really want to BIFL, buy a Framework 16. Now, if you'd like details on why modern MacBooks are not BIFL, keep reading. I've cited plenty of sources, so you don't need to take my word for it: If you buy a Lenovo and the SSD, RAM, battery, or WiFi card dies, you can easily swap in a replacement. If you run out of storage space, need more RAM, or want faster Wi-Fi, just upgrade it yourself with a screwdriver. Even beyond those simple swaps many of the parts in Lenovo laptops are readily available. For example, if you break the screen Lenovo sells replacements and publishes straightforward repair procedures that are easy to follow. If you buy one of Dell's latest laptops, you can replace all of the typical parts plus even [the ports on the sides](https://youtu.be/fiG2-1GiAso) can be swapped out with a screwdriver. Microsoft sells a large variety of replacement parts for their Surface laptops and tablets both on their own website and though ifixit. Plus, when you open up the device, they have QR codes printed right on the internal components themselves that will take you to the relevant replacement guide for that part. On a MacBook if you damage a port, trash it and buy a new laptop. If the SSD dies, trash it and buy a new laptop. Storage space full? You mean you didn't pay $2200 extra on top of the $3499 base price to get 8TB storage? Trash it and spend between $5699 to $7349 to get a MacBook Pro with 8TB installed. And kick yourself for wasting over $10k on Apple laptops. If you had bought a $500 PC laptop you could have swapped in an 8TB SSD you bought on Newegg for $600, no laptop replacement required. Use that extra $9000 you saved to take your wife out for a nice dinner. Or buy a new PC laptop every year for a decade. Need more RAM, or Memtest starts indicating RAM corruption? You can get more RAM in a new MacBook(for up to a $1200 upcharge). Want to use WiFi 8 a few years from now? New MacBook. Drop it and the screen cracks? The shiny new MacBooks at the Apple store have fully functional screens. [Allow the OS updater to install the latest MacOS update on your 6 year MacBook?](https://www.macrumors.com/2021/11/01/macos-monterey-bricking-older-macs/) Now it's an out-of-warranty fancy aluminum brick. [One spec of dust snuck under your MacBook's super-thin butterfly keyboard and the spacebar stopped working?](https://theoutline.com/post/2402/the-new-macbook-keyboard-is-ruining-my-life?zd=2&zi=yhggo5vn) Replace the busted key; no wait, Apple designed it to make that impossible. You can either use the onscreen keyboard from now on🤣, carry around an external keyboard everywhere you go, pay Apple $700 to replace the keyboard, or buy a new laptop. Want to connect more than 1 external screen? Should've bought the M3 Max; for some reason these premium, expensive ["Pro"](https://youtu.be/BZuvC66rVks) laptops can't output to 3 screens like cheap PC laptops from 10+ years ago can. Well, I suppose we do know the reason; Apple artificially limited their laptop CPUs so they could upsell you to an M3 Max without the arbitrary limitation and [add to their $100 billion+ pile of cash](https://youtu.be/SqA8h0IBRmY). Time to do your part and give them thousands of dollars to add to that pile, in exchange for a new MacBook Pro that is allowed to run more than one screen. https://youtu.be/LiAzrco8wsk https://youtu.be/gdaqPhmZvPE https://youtu.be/7CEQ-ItjtN8 https://youtu.be/LiAzrco8wsk https://youtu.be/SqA8h0IBRmY And if you think the components in a MacBook are higher quality and don't fail, well, check out what the owner of the most famous MacBook repair business in America has to say: https://youtu.be/0qbrLiGY4Cg https://youtu.be/RYG4VMqatEY https://youtu.be/7cNg_ifibCQ https://youtu.be/4KuVvb9DTaU For years Apple forced their part suppliers to never sell the parts used in their laptops to anyone but Apple(so no replacement parts for sale). And Apple is literally forcing used laptop recyclers/resellers to grind the parts of used MacBooks into toxic e-waste dust so they can't be used to fix other people's failing MacBooks. https://www.inverse.com/input/culture/apples-repair-policies-are-utterly-shameful-and-shouldnt-be-allowed-e-waste-recycling-macbooks-t2 https://www.vice.com/en/article/apple-macbook-activation-lock-right-to-repair/ https://www.vice.com/en/article/apple-recycling-iphones-macbooks/ "[Apple] undermines attempts to prolong the lifespan of its products." When I bought my Sager NP8290 laptop back 12 years ago in 2013, it came with 8GB DDR3, a 750GB HDD with spinning platters, Wi-Fi 802.11g and Bluetooth 3.0. Since then I've upgraded the RAM to 32GB, added a big SSD, and connected a few external monitors. I still have 3 empty internal SSD bays if I want to add even more storage, and I could swap out the Wi-Fi card for one that supports Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5. This laptop cost less than the cheapest MacBook Pro available that year. And no amount of money could have bought a 2013 MacBook Pro with the amount of RAM, storage, or GPU this laptop now contains. This Sager still runs like a champ to this day. If I had bought a MacBook, I would have had to replace it years ago. In fact, one of my close friends bought a new MacBook Pro around 2015. Three years later the trackpad started jerking the mouse pointer around the screen, even when you weren't touching it. On Windows/Linux you might be able to [replace](https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd103999-removal-and-installation-step-for-trackpad-cable-and-trackpad-thinkpad-t460s) the [trackpad](https://www.ifixit.com/products/dell-xps-15-9510-touchpad), or just disable it in Device Manager and use a mouse. Not on a MacBook. After Googling for weeks and trying every potential fix or workaround we could find, she threw it out and bought a Windows laptop. I'd say buy a Lenovo Thinkpad or Legion(for more gaming power) with replaceable RAM and SSD. The [new Dell laptops](https://youtu.be/fiG2-1GiAso) also look good, though it's hard to predict reliability for a new redesign. Or if you really want to BIFL, buy a Framework 16. Here's an ifixit listing of the most repairable laptops, for reference: https://www.ifixit.com/repairability/laptop-repairability-scores
View on Redditopen_in_new - #153Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Apple MacBook is the best. Lenovo would be my second choice.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #154Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Welp, I was gonna answer MacBooks. I’ve had a Dell, HP and Apple. My MacBook is the absolute best laptop I have ever had. I don’t game though. My husband is a tech nerd, loves to game and has built 3 desktops. I asked his opinion and he recommends a Lenovo Legion Pro (or non pro if money matters) or an Asus ROG Strix.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #155Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I have one and it's great, maybe not for everyone but it is a perfect match for me. It replaced my 9 year old MacBook, which held up so great after years of constant heavy work. While Framework is awesome and you can't go wrong with them, for the general public that doesn't need the heavy customization, taking price into consideration, I am inclined recommend Lenovo. Many of my friends, tech heavy and casual users, have Lenovo laptops and they are by far the most durable and quality-for-buck that you can get, specially with the many discounts you can find. Never buy anything from HP. Never. Apart from the laptop brand, some general suggestions. This year was slow for chips, so the previous generation stuff is almost the same and you can get better stuff cheaper (don't fall for any of the AI crap marketing). You mentioned light gaming, if you don't plan to play AAA titles and want a more portable and affordable option, AMD chips (and I think some of the new Intel ones but I don't have experience with them) have phenomenal integrated GPUs that can run many games perfectly. Also look into laptops that have replaceable SSDs so you can upsize later, replaceable RAM is nice, but not as important, as the CPU/GPU will more likely be the bottleneck first. Also, not a need per se, but laptops that charge via USB C PD are great, not only can you replace the charger easily, but you can share the charger with many other devices.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #156Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Look at whatever Salem texpert sells. He prioritizes reparable reliable machines. I think he is focusing on think pads as of late
View on Redditopen_in_new - #157Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
lenovo and toshiba for me. tried and tested
View on Redditopen_in_new - #158Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo Thinkpad.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #159Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I have the same asus i bought in 2013. I got my bsa and mba on that thing. All i did was replace the battery to be able to do homework longer during long flights. But yea Asus or Lenovo.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #160Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
seriously get a macbook pro or lenovo thinkpad. there really isn't any competition between the two
View on Redditopen_in_new - #161Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I still use an old X220 for my data center carry along. It's still kicking major ass.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #162Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I get machines thru work, one year I opted for a Mac just to give it a shot. I have not switched back but I also have an iPhone and iPad. I liked Lenovo prior to this
View on Redditopen_in_new - #163Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Only right answer. I've had mine for almost a decade. Indestructible.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #164Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
My lenovo was still going after 6 years, but in 2016 i started traveling a lot and just wanted something thinner and lighter. my boyfriend at the time (now husband) had the 2015 model and i liked it, so i got one. he’s still using his original one as well. surface pros aren’t easily repairable, but thats never been an issue for either of us. the keyboard and pen are still fine too. they’re going to stop giving free updates to windows 10 in October of this year. i’m not sure whether i’ll pay for the extended updates or get a new surface, but 9 years is a pretty good run. my husband is planning to ride it out, but i’m on the fence...we’ll see whether the software suites i use for work abandon windows 10 or not. i splurged for the newer surface dock for my home office a couple years ago, but that was more a want than a need.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #165Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
A Lenovo Thinkpad. Build quality can withstand an apocalypse. Get an upgradable option (without soldered components)
View on Redditopen_in_new - #166Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Currently it's probably framework laptops. Those are the easiest to maintain, upgrade and repair. Lenovo or asus are only good if you can get your hands on their enterprise series. Otherwise its just consumer trash and not worth it.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #167Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
ThinkPads run for years even when bought refurbished.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #168Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo tend to be well put together, and easy to repair when something does break. There's a reason Lenovo is the largest supplier of business laptops. Working IT for a school district and talking to my fellow IT buddies, pretty much everyone had contracts with Lenovo to supply their workplaces with the 5000+ laptops needed. That being said, just about any enterprise, business, workstation grade laptop is miles better put together than the cheapy best buy ones. I had a Dell Precision that was solid as a rock. Asus, Acer, Microsoft, ick. Apple, yeah they are well put together and will keep trekking forever. But again, ick.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #169Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Apple macbook will be the best brand, microsoft and lenovo is the second best laptop brand
View on Redditopen_in_new - #170Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Get a thinkpad or ideapad from Lenovo or the Asus vivobook is amazing!
View on Redditopen_in_new - #171Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo Thinkpad
View on Redditopen_in_new - #172Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
I have had the most luck with Apple MacBook Air's. We still have one we bought in 2013, still works fine but we couldn't upgrade it anymore and started to run out of storage, so we just bought another one. Lenovo has been the best I have had for work. HP has been by far the worst. Dell has been kind of in the middle for me for work issued laptops.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #173Feb 9, 2025
What is the best laptop brand for long term use?
Lenovo Ideapad will be great tbh
View on Redditopen_in_new - #174Feb 8, 2025
What brands do you trust to always deliver a high quality product?
My employer gave me a Lenovo laptop nearly ten years ago. I have treated in a way that would be considered abusive to the battery -- I just leave it plugged in 24/7, as I never wanted a laptop. (The IT staff just came and took my tower and replaced it one day.) Not only hasn't the battery swelled/exploded/caught fire, as one might expect, it still holds a charge.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #175Feb 7, 2025
Looking to buy a decent, budget friendly laptop
Any Lenovo ryzen 5 laptop with 16gb ram and windows 11 pro would do the trick This is what I have and they do make good laptops. https://a.co/d/bP9pyUj
View on Redditopen_in_new - #176Feb 3, 2025
What’s one product you bought that has lasted forever and was totally worth it?
I'm still a big fan of Dell and Lenovo business laptops, but I really appreciate how easy Apple makes it to get a laptop with sturdy construction. You don't have to find out which product line has the metal chassis and which ones are fragile plastic, they're just all good. They're all expensive, but they're all good. And refurb/used apple products are so reliable used as well
View on Redditopen_in_new - #177Feb 1, 2025
[Request] Laptop brands built to last....longer?
For longer-lasting laptops, consider brands like **Apple (MacBook Air/Pro)**, **Lenovo (ThinkPad series)**, and **Dell (XPS series)**. These laptops are known for their **build quality**, **reliability**, and **long-term performance**. They might cost more upfront, but they are designed to last longer and maintain performance over time, making them a better investment for your usage.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #178Jan 5, 2025
Has everything we buy reduced in quality over time? Has anything increased in quality or stayed high quality and durable?
They've gone this way a bit with Thinkpads, but they're still relatively repairable. But I'm typing this from a 2024 Thinkpad X1, which has clearly made a bunch of compromises in favor of compactness. A\~2014 Thinkpad X or T series would have had a more modular keyboard and modular RAM. It would have had a removable battery. This one has the RAM soldered onto the motherboard, the keyboard probably built into the case, and I'd have to unscrew the back to replace the battery. Yet it's way lighter, the screen is markedly better, the battery life is long enough that I don't really even want to carry a spare. And the whole package is a lot less expensive (inflation-adjusted). I think Lenovo has done pretty well at keeping the best things about Thinkpads good while adapting them to modern desires. Aside from deleting the physical mouse buttons for a while I'm even a fan of their keyboard/touchpoint/touchpad combo.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #179Dec 6, 2015
[Request] Consumer-Grade (not military spec) Laptop with the longest lasting hardware/hinges
The old T-series are pretty good and you might be able to change out the hardware. Be warned, recently, on several occasions, Lenovo has been caught infecting their own systems with malware even in the bios (In the last few years) so consider this before buying a newer one.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #180Dec 6, 2015
[Request] Consumer-Grade (not military spec) Laptop with the longest lasting hardware/hinges
I ran a department in a large enterprise organization that tested and selected laptops for use by employees. Use cases ranged from office users who plugged them in and cabled them to a desk where it never moved to people who strapped them to snowmobiles to travel up a mountain to a site... First thing to mention is that there is more to the discussion than rugged vs. not rugged. There is a class called semi-rugged that is typically a machine with improved shock resistance, a tough case but not generally protected from dust or water ingestion. (See Panasonic's Toughbook 53) In return it's a bit lighter and more business like than the fully rugged laptops. Assuming from your edit you are reasonably confident that a Toughbook is too heavy and large, then the response based on my experience is the T series Lenovo. One test we would to is to take the screen and flex it by the corners to see if the hinges were up to the task. We often had HPs and Dells that would begin to crack or even not close after torquing them like this, but never the Lenovo. One easy indicator is how far outboard the hinges are located. The closer to center, the easier they fail a torque test. Lenovo's hinges are furthest to the edge and provide the most support. Here's the big caveat.... In an enterprise, it's very expensive for employees to be trading in and trading up machines all the time. For you, it's a different scenario. How long do you really want it to last? Do you want to pay twice as much for a machine that will last twice as long when the rate of technological change is so rapid and your switching cost is relatively low? Consider living with the fact that it will fail and accepting you will be getting a new one in two years. Spend half the money now, and the other half then. The second half of the money will get you a brand new, improved spec machine to be using for years 3 and 4.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #181Dec 6, 2015
[Request] Consumer-Grade (not military spec) Laptop with the longest lasting hardware/hinges
Lenovo Thinkpad T series is what you want. Lenovo is general is nice in that none of their models fall apart that quickly (I have a Thinkpad Edge that's on it's last legs, but it's like 6 years old, and had heavy use with lots of travel, so I can't really complain that much. And yeah, it's the hinges). Even the less durable Thinkpads, like the edge series, have *fantastic* ergonomics for a laptop. The keyboard is nice to use, and if you're having repetitive stress issues with the trackpad, they've also got the nipple so you can switch things up. You can also change what movements do what for your trackpad. I've had Macbooks last pretty well too: the metal cases last well (the old plastic ones used to break apart where you'd put your wrist, and that hurt), but one of the really frustrating things about them is that they make it very hard to replace an old battery or hard drive: and batteries have never lasted me 6 years (also, their charging cords break all the time). They also don't really allow as much customization or comfort. My hands, for some reason, hurt really, really badly when I use two finger scrolling. Macbooks cannot be configured (without serious hacking) to allow any other method of scrolling unless you want to get out a mouse.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #182Dec 5, 2015
[Request] Consumer-Grade (not military spec) Laptop with the longest lasting hardware/hinges
I would not worry so much about "the most" rugged laptop. No matter how great the hardware is, until (and if) some modular replaceable/upgradeable laptop series comes out, these things will only ever have a couple year life span. You only need to get something decent. The lenovo T and X series are definitely legit; I have a Dell i bought from their outlet 2.5 years ago, which is peeling in the laminate but otherwise physically intact. Honestly, if you stay away from trash-tier laptops and treat them with an iota of respect, I would be surprised if you ever ran into this issue again.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #183Dec 5, 2015
[Request] Consumer-Grade (not military spec) Laptop with the longest lasting hardware/hinges
Lenovo Y50. Mine has been heavily used ( pack/unpacked 3-4 times per day) and transported between 5 different countries with no hardware failures at all. How rough are you with your laptops? Hinges are just about the last piece of hardware on a laptop that should break.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #184Dec 5, 2015
[Request] Consumer-Grade (not military spec) Laptop with the longest lasting hardware/hinges
OP, go for a Lenovo yoga 900. It is a 15" 2 in 1 with the newest generation of intel processor (i5 or i7, up to you) 8 GB of RAM, a 256GB SSD, a 3200X1800 display and most importantly a built out of 800 induvidual bits of aluminium and steel. I promise you I am not a sales man. It should be in budget for you and it is a Solid buy. If you want though, you can go for the more consumer targeted, 700 series, only difference being the hinge is a little less flashy (but still great find you) and you having a 1080p display.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #185Dec 5, 2015
[Request] Consumer-Grade (not military spec) Laptop with the longest lasting hardware/hinges
A business Dell is what I'm replacing actually. Worst hinges I've ever had, though I bought it because the hinges looked crazy sturdy like a Mac. Lasted 1 year and 2 weeks, the worst I've had before that was an HP at 2.5 years. Also the Dell is the only laptop I've ever had with recurring driver and software issues. Lenovo and Mac seem to be winning. I've wanted a Mac for a while, but the complications with compatibility are a concern. They still just don't play nice with competitive products it seems.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #186Dec 5, 2015
[Request] Consumer-Grade (not military spec) Laptop with the longest lasting hardware/hinges
Macbook Pro. I'm still using the one bought in June of 2010. It was my primary work machine until 2014 and still gets used every day. If you really want a Windows machine I would go with a Lenovo or maybe one of the business Dells. Something I discovered with my work issue Dell recently is that it's designed for water to be spilled on the keyboard. It has drain holes to let it run through. I accidentally tested this feature and haven't had any problems.
View on Redditopen_in_new - #187Dec 5, 2015
[Request] Consumer-Grade (not military spec) Laptop with the longest lasting hardware/hinges
Hell even I have to agree and I hate windows. I'm in computer engineering and we were issued these Surface things, I hated it at first but now, especially with VDI, I sort of prefer it. Lightning fast and all the corporate stuff work very well. As someone who makes his money outside the windows world, I have to give credit where it is due. MS did a good job here. However it is not tough, just has less part to break. It is a tablet, albeit a good one. Back when we got dirty, we had basically three laptops we gave out to field staff. These were not IT people. These were land surveyors, farmers, mountaineers, and other outdoor people. We had a thin Fuji, Lenovo X (with the tilting screen), and toughbooks. The Levovos always performed the worst. THere was nothong particularly wrong with the Fuji, but screens broke and water and dust got in everywhere. Panasonic has rubber gussets to cover ports and the hinge is very well made. For a laptop that claims to be tough it is also fairly responsive and has a decent display. At home, the laptop I have had for about 4-5 years now, with a bend in the aluminum frame from a drop is a metal HP elitebook. I absolutely love it. It is very well made, top spec for the time, and can take a beating. I take it on the road, bang it in airports, and generally treat it with no respect. It is fine. Also runs Debian without any issues, which I need for work. If you are not going to be killing it in a swamp, I highly recommend it. (I have the hp elitebook 8460p kind of crappy screen in that model but I needed it for work)
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