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- #1Dec 31, 2025
What product category has gotten worse in quality, even at the premium level?
Very fair question! > What if in 15 years the company goes bankrupt? ...or enshittifies, which is also possible with a lot of tech related companies. I said "my hope" because the future is always uncertain. Not to be morbid, but a person can't even assume they'll be alive in a decade: unexpected health issues or accidents happen (speaking from experience, sadly). **When it comes to the Framework laptops, I think the rationale to buy is solid:** * System costs aren't that much higher than a normal non-repairable non-upgradeable laptop with similar specs -- maybe a couple hundred dollars * Replacement components are a small fraction of the price of a new system, and even a main board upgrade is half the price of a full system. It's even cheaper if I don't replace with the latest hardware. * If I repair or update *once* rather than replacing the system, then it more than justifies the extra cost * They've released several generations of different product offerings, which makes it less likely they'll fold suddenly. * The Framework 13 series is their original model and they've steadily released updates, making it less likely to be discontinued than experiments with different form factors (there's more risk there for displays and main boards) * Even if the company goes under, odds are good there will be *some* used systems & components for sale on eBay etc -- similar to the (large) secondary market for Thinkpads albeit more niche. **TL;DR: worst case I paid slightly more for a laptop that I'll probably be able to at least repair and partially upgrade for some years.**
View on Redditopen_in_new - #2Dec 30, 2025
What product category has gotten worse in quality, even at the premium level?
Same, and although there have been a few small issues (generally fixed in subsequent releases) I've been very happy with my Framework 13 overall. The best part was being able to easily and fairly inexpensively upgrade some of the components when newer or better hardware was released. My hope is that in 10 or 15 years I'll be having a Ship of Theseus debate about whether or not I'm still using the "same" laptop... after getting the equivalent of 3 new laptops from one purchase. I can say the upgraded 120 Hz 2.8k display on the Framework 13 was slightly expensive but worth every penny (almost like getting a new laptop).
View on Redditopen_in_new - #3Sep 2, 2025
What laptop should I buy in 2025
Reparability and upgreadability should be top priority if you're in this subreddit, so there are only 2 logical suggestions: Framework, the 13 should be the right one for you. The most BIFL laptop so far by far. Lenovo ThinkPad, the thicker, repairable models. The other option would be one of the smaller manufacturers, Tuxedo, Slimbook, StarLabs, etc. Caviat that there is no BIFL laptop. but a repairable and upgradeable one is as close as it gets. And nobody who supports or promotes any of the manufacturers actively opposing right to repair has anything to do here. That's just one of the most evil things to do as a manufacturer.
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